Vehicle-Specific Installation Notes

Vehicle-Specific Installation Notes

Table of Contents

Harness Register

Installation Notes on Specific Vehicles

2017 IC PB105

SAE standard J1939-13 Type 2 - 9-Pin Deutsch Heavy Duty Connector

Ford Fusion (All years)

2009 Nissan UD

Ford Sterling (Multiple years)

Vehicles with GND on PIN 5 only (111 Product ID)

Telematics Devices and Third-Party Devices

Wheelchair Lifts

Intermotive/Interlock

Braun/Braunability

Ricon/Wabtec

Idle Mode Controllers

Intermotive/Interlock

Third-Party Car Alarms

Notice on the Telematics Device and Third-Party Devices

How is this handled?

Vehicle Specific Bulletins

Toyota Camry Hybrid (2012+) - Potential Dash Warning Lights

2012–2014 Ford Focus — TSB — Engine Lights

GM Vehicles and the HRN-GMLS

Harness Register

Visit this link (goo.gl/4KG6NE) for an updated list of vehicles and associated harnesses. Detailed installation manuals are available for select vehicles. Please contact your Reseller for more information.

Installation Notes on Specific Vehicles

The HRN-DS09T2 or HRN-DS09S4 must be modified by the user if the harness is connected to 2017 IC PB105 school buses. This is to accommodate the new changes on the diagnostic port in order to maximize the amount of engine data the GO device can receive from these buses. However, if you are using the HRN-GS09K2, the harness modifications are not required as changes are included with this harness. Please note there is no compatibility for devices prior to the GO7.  

Please refer to the diagram below to see the wire connection between the male and female connectors on a typical HRN-DS09T2. The first step is to swap the C and J position. Normally the yellow wire is connected to the C position, after the modification the yellow wire should be attached to the J position and the blue wire should be in the C position when finished. Similarly, the green wire that normally connects to the D position should be connected to the H position, and the purple wire should be in the D position when finished.

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In order to comply with SAE standard J1939-13 Type 2 connector, heavy duty vehicles equipped with GREEN 9-Pin Deutsch connectors MAY require the use of adaptor harness HRN-BS04A1 in conjunction with harnesses HRN-DS09T2, HRN-DR09T2,  HRN-DR09S4, and HRN-GS09K2, running firmware version x.17.61+

Vehicles equipped with BLACK 9-Pin Deutsch connectors DO NOT require an adaptor harness. Geotab has created a guide to help identify which vehicle requires the adaptor.

Important: Not using an adaptor harness when one is required will result in limited engine data, i.e. odometer will not be reported. Using an adaptor harness when one is NOT required will result in no engine data at all.

Installing an Adapter Harness

If your vehicle has a Type 2 connector (GREEN 9-Pin port), it may require the use of an adapter harness. During installation, Installers should keep an adapter harness on hand in case it is required.

To determine whether or not an adapter harness is required, you must use a voltmeter to calculate the voltage between Pin F and Battery Negative (Chassis ground), and Pin G and Battery Negative (Chassis ground).

Not Required:

If voltage between Pin F - Batt Neg measures approximately 5V 

If voltage between Pin G - Batt Neg measures approximately 1V

Required:

If voltage between Pin F - Batt Neg measures between 2V~3V

If voltage between Pin G - Batt Neg measures between 2V~3V

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Vehicles with GND on PIN 5 only (111 Product ID)

Professional Installation Required

If the telematics device does not power on when connected, validate that the engine diagnostic port has power. The telematics device requires GND on PIN 4 of the engine diagnostics port. If your vehicle's engine diagnostic port has GND on PIN 5 rather than PIN 4, insert the ALDL shunt between PIN 4 and PIN 5 as shown below. Please contact your Authorized Reseller to obtain an ALDL shunt (SPR-ALDLSHUNT).

Note: The ALDL shunt is only compatible with telematics devices that are on firmware version 111.X.XX and have a recess for the shunt around PIN 4 and PIN 5, as shown in the installation steps below. Telematics devices that do not meet these conditions do not require the ALDL shunt.

For a list of vehicle makes/models that have been identified as needing an ALDL shunt, please see (goo.gl/NeM1kC). Please note that this is not a complete and extensive list and there may be some vehicles that are not listed in the document.

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Validate whether GND is on PIN 4 or PIN 5 of the vehicle diagnostic port. PIN 16 of the port is PWR as shown in the connector image to the right.

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If GND is on PIN 5, insert the ALDL shunt between PIN 4 and PIN 5 and push it all the way down into the recess.

If GND is on PIN 4, no ALDL shunt is needed. If the device does not power on, please contact support.

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3

Bend the shunt handle back and forth repeatedly to detach it.

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4

Ensure that the shunt sits flush with the bottom of the connector and that it is pushed all the way into the recess. Connect the telematics device to the vehicle’s diagnostic port again and verify it powers on and beeps six times. Once the device powers on, please refer back to the installation steps in the Telematics device insert (goo.gl/rkLRiA).

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Telematics Devices and Third-Party Devices

We’ve experienced some issues with telematics devices and certain after-market third-party devices (e.g. wheelchair lifts and Idle Mode Controllers) from certain manufacturers. Essentially, these specific devices do not work well with the telematics device or any other devices plugged into the diagnostic port in general. The symptoms you may experience include: the vehicle may not start or you may not be able to shift out of Park.  

To assist with this, some manufacturers provide a “Gateway Module” connector that allows another device to be plugged into the diagnostic connector and this allows the Telematics Device and other diagnostic tools to work in conjunction with the Third-Party Device.

Wheelchair Lifts

Intermotive/Interlock

Telematics device must be plugged into the Gateway Module (which must be purchased from Intermotive directly) otherwise the device will have to be put into Listen Only Mode (No Engine Data). You must contact your dealer/reseller for more information.

Braun/Braunability

Currently no gateway module exists — must keep device in Listen Only Mode (no engine data). You must contact your dealer/reseller for more information.

Ricon/Wabtec

Currently no gateway module exists — must keep device in Listen Only Mode (no engine data). You must contact your dealer/reseller for more information.

Maxon

Currently no gateway module exists — must keep device in Listen Only Mode (no engine data). You must contact your dealer/reseller for more information.

Idle Mode Controllers

Intermotive/Interlock

Advanced Fast Idle System (AFIS Series)

Telematics device must be plugged into the Gateway Module (which must be purchased from Intermotive directly) otherwise the device will have to be put into Listen Only Mode (No Engine Data). You must contact your dealer/reseller for more information.

Third-Party Car Alarms

Code Systems

This alarm beeps during ignition off periods when the telematics device sends out heartbeats. This occurs because the telematics devices wakes up at regular intervals to send a hello message and download new parameters (as required). Due to the device waking up, the alarm system may think there is activity going on in the vehicle and it may cause the alarm to beep.

There are two solutions to this:

Notice on the Telematics Device and Third-Party Devices

How is this handled? 

We have learned that connecting a telematics device to a light-duty vehicle where a third-party device is connected can cause the third-party device to cease functioning. This includes but is not limited to: wheelchair lifts, idle control modules, PTO’s, etc.

If the third-party device’s method of communication does not use standard OBDII commands, or if the third-party device was connected to the vehicle before the telematics device and the customer notices that the third-party device has stopped functioning, they should contact their reseller and support to enable “listen-only” mode on the telematics device. A customer is also encouraged to contact the third-party device vendor and inquire about a possible “compatibility mode” setting for the device. If a “compatibility mode” is available and is enabled, the telematics device can potentially be taken off the “listen-only” mode.

Note: When in “listen-only” mode, all vehicle types (except J1939 or GM) will have reduced engine data support. For example, a device cannot request RPM when in “listen-only” mode and idle time calculation will not be accurate.

In the case of a scan tool that is connected for a temporary period of time AFTER the telematics device is connected, the device will detect the presence of another device and will temporarily stop requesting OBD parameters completely (no engine data) for 10 minutes at a time after every message detected from the scan tool until it is removed. Note that this assumes the telematics device was plugged in and the vehicle was driven for 5 km before the third-party devices was connected.

Vehicle Specific Bulletins

Toyota Camry Hybrid (2012+) - Potential Dash Warning Lights

We have detected that some 2012+ models of the Toyota Camry Hybrid display intermittent dashboard warning lights when connected to version 111.x.x of the GO7 device. Our investigation has determined that the unique electrical characteristics inside the impacted vehicles can cause damage to GO7 device circuitry, leading to the symptoms described.

Geotab has designed and tested a new version of the GO7 device (versions 113.x.x and 115.x.x) that prevents this issue from occurring on Camry Hybrid vehicles. The initial version of the new GO7 devices are reserved for 2012+ Camry Hybrids, with production roll-out for all vehicles to follow.

Geotab will contact impacted Resellers to arrange new GO7 device(s). Geotab Resellers will contact impacted owners to arrange supply and installation of the new device(s), and the return of the original GO7 device to Geotab.

20122014 Ford Focus — TSB — Engine Lights

We have recently become aware of a Ford Focus Service Bulletin affecting all 20122014 Ford Focuses. The bulletin indicates that there is the potential in these vehicles for the CAN circuit located on the underside of the front passenger seat to short to ground. This issue can cause erratic behavior to occur inside the vehicle. Possible symptoms include engine warning lights to appear on the dash, loss of power steering/brakes, failure to start the vehicle, and the potential for the vehicle to stall while moving.

We have seen that the likelihood of these symptoms occurring is higher with a Version 6 telematics device installed.

We strongly recommend that any customer using a Version 6 device in a 2012–2014 Ford Focus have the vehicle serviced under the TSB Reference #ASI-44460 before continuing to use the telematics device in the vehicle.

More information on this issue is available here: http://www.fordproblems.com/tsbs/Focus/2014/

http://www-odi.nhtsa.dot.gov/owners/SearchSafetyIssues

NHTSA Reference #10055324, TSB Reference #ASI-44460

GM Vehicles and the HRN-GMLS

Some newer GM vehicles require the HRN-GMLS to properly detect seatbelt data. Only needed on the Version 5/Version 6 device. Not all Chevrolet vehicles will need a GMLS harness. Version 7 of the device does not require the HRN-GMLS.

The following vehicles will not need the GMLS harness:

●      Chevrolet Colorado — any year

●      Chevrolet Trailblazer — any year

●      Chevrolet Uplander — any year

●      GMC Canyon — any year

●      GMC Envoy — any year

The following vehicles will need the GMLS harness when used with V5/V6:

●      2007 Chevrolet Silverado — all models other than “Classic”

●      2008 and newer Chevrolet Silverado

●      2008 and newer Chevrolet Express – G1500, G2500, G3500

●      2006 and newer Chevrolet HHR

●      2006 and newer Chevrolet Impala

●      2005 and newer Chevrolet Malibu

●      2007 and newer Chevrolet Suburban

●      2007 and newer Chevrolet Tahoe

●      2009 and newer Chevrolet Traverse

●      2007 and newer Chevrolet Avalanche

●      2009 and newer Chevrolet Aveo

●      2005 and newer Chevrolet Cobalt

●      2011 and newer Chevrolet Cruze

●      2007 and newer Chevrolet Equinox

●      2007 and newer Chevrolet Suburban

●      2011 and newer Chevrolet Volt

●      2007 and newer GMC Volt

●      2008 and newer GMC Savana

●      2007 GMC Sierra — all models other than “Classic”

●      2008 and newer GMC Sierra — all trim levels

●      2010 and newer GMC Terrain

●      2007 and newer GMC Yukon

●      Cadillac CTS

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