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Reporting Seat Belt Data: Not as Easy as a “Click”

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Author: Paul Ciolek, Junior Embedded Systems Developer

Seat belt information is crucial to many of Geotab’s customers. However, it is not always as easy to retrieve as its physical simplicity may imply.

Seat Belt Data Is Not Mandated by OBD II Specifications

This means that different vehicle models, makes, and years can all report seat belt data differently. Because of this, Geotab goes the extra mile to obtain seat belt information. Geotab’s GO device employs a complex detection and verification algorithm to combat these difficulties in order to cater for as many vehicles as possible. The GO device will report data it believes is seat belt data, but only when a piece of data passes the verification process will Geotab start reporting seat belt.

Obtaining Seat Belt Data

While it seems seat belt data should be straightforward to report, as there are only two states – buckled or unbuckled – in actuality, it is not! The many complexities include:

  • Seat belt data is specific to the vehicle manufacturer. This means that different models and makes report the data in different locations through different pids (Parameter IDs, code used to request engine data). Where one car reports seat belt data another car could report an ajar door.
  • Sometimes, seat belt data is broadcasted voluntarily, while at other times the data needs to requested from the engine computer, and further, sometimes data is only reported once when the state changes. The GO device needs to be able to process all circumstances that seat belt data is presented in.
  • Seat belt data can be very “bouncy” as it often tends to jump around for the first few seconds of ignition on, before it finally settles to the correct value. One would not expect 20+ buckled and unbuckled events within the first few seconds of ignition on! The telematics GO device must determine this is the correct seat belt data once it settles
  • Some drivers still never use a seat belt, which others use it in an unusual manner such as just taking it off in the middle of trips. Taking into account unusual driver behaviour also makes it challenging for the GO device to verify seat belt data.

Detecting and Verifying Seat Belt Data

The following describe the various stages that the GO device must go through in the seat belt detection process in order to be an “all in one” solution:

  • Needs to be able to scan through all the broadcasted data and try all the various seat belt requests.
  • Once the GO device identifies possible seat belt data, it then detects if it is in fact seat belt data, and not some other piece of data such as the driver door opening.
    • If it is false data, the device will skip it and need to return to search for another piece of data that could be seat belt
  • Account for various random seat belt events such as:
    • Drivers unbuckling their seat belt to deliver a package but leaving ignition on
    • Drivers unbuckling at high speeds to get something out of their pockets
    • Drivers buckling up before ignition on
    • Drivers unbuckling after ignition off
    • Drivers unbuckling before coming to a complete stop

One can surely speculate how the list can go on and on for various different driver behaviors. Geotab’s detection system caters for many of these events to verify seat belt data before it starts being reported to the customer. The GO device processes when unbuckled and buckled events occur during the trip and use other pieces of engine data before the device decides how likely that this piece of data is truly seat belt data.

Next Steps

Geotab is constantly adding new seat belt data for more and more models, makes and years. The detection and verification process is continuously being updated to account for new seat belt information and the different ways seat belt can behave in vehicles and fleets.

Let’s hear your seat belt questions – ask away in the comment box below!

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  • Posted July 16, 2018 at 1:34 am | Permalink

    I have a fleet of 2012 to present Impala police package vehicles that are not reporting seat belt activity correctly.

    When I look under vehicle measurements I see that the vehicle passenger seat occupancy measurement and the passenger seat belt buckle measurement data may be transposed.

    Can Geotab look into this Impalla PP seat belt issue and come up with a fix for my 300 vehicles?

    • Posted October 15, 2018 at 11:18 am | Permalink

      Thank you for inquiring! A Geotab representative will follow up with you directly.

  • Posted July 15, 2018 at 10:13 pm | Permalink

    Hello, I have the Beltminder system on my 04 Ford Econoline, can seatbelt detection be read on a chart if I’m driving with the belt off. I understand that the system will detect a unbuckled situation f I start up without buckling first. I need to know if there’s a way to visibly see if I’m not wearing the belt on a chart if I pull it from the pcu?

    • Posted October 15, 2018 at 11:19 am | Permalink

      Thank you for inquiring! A Geotab representative will follow up with you directly.

  • Posted March 11, 2018 at 11:59 pm | Permalink

    I put a 2018 challenger red driver seat in my
    2016 challenger . The 2016 challenger now shows
    the seatbelt dash light on and the airbag light on. I replaced both front seats but my dash says driver seatbelt not
    Connected. My dash also says to get my airbag
    System serviced. Can you help me??

    • Posted July 10, 2018 at 1:17 pm | Permalink

      For the best advice, please take your car to a certified mechanic for inspection and repair or proper installation.

  • Posted October 10, 2017 at 9:33 pm | Permalink

    Can geotab data give seltbelt usage for passenger or just driver?

  • Posted June 5, 2017 at 10:37 pm | Permalink

    How about the coverage of car types? Are there existed cars that do not report seat belt information?

    • Posted June 14, 2017 at 11:11 am | Permalink

      Hi Warren. Good question. Yes, there are vehicles out there where seat belt data simply isn’t available through the OBD II port. Usually, the older the vehicle, the less likely seat belt data is reported through the various computers on board the vehicle. However, Geotab always make an effort to confirm if seat belt data is available or not in various vehicle make/model/years. Even if it is not, there can be other solutions, such as hooking up an AUX cable to the seat belt switch to report the seat belt state.
      Paul Ciolek, Embedded Systems Developer

  • Posted February 24, 2015 at 8:40 am | Permalink

    can you use the signal to the audible alarm in the vehicle as your buckled/unbuckled indicator. no matter what PID is used in the harness, the vehicle audible alarm is always actived when the vehicle detects the belt is not buckled and these seem very reliable. In understand that the signal location would be different for each vehicle but that is no different than your current problem of PID variability.

    • Posted March 4, 2015 at 9:12 am | Permalink

      Yes, sometimes we lock onto the signal to the audible alarm, but we still have to be careful because in some vehicles, the audible alarm stops after a certain period so it could give you a false positive that the seat belt was buckled.

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